San Antonio Police prove that they do not understand Failure to ID law

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The Battousai has done it yet again.

This started with a simple photography exercise at a federal facility, the NSA in San Antonio.

Here, there is a problem with his filming, which is actually the first time I’ve really seen him make a mistake. Under state law, there is no prohibition on filming, but under federal law, there is. Under 18 U.S.C. § 795, photography of a defense facility may be prohibited, under pain of arrest, fine, and imprisonment for up to a year. Plus, the Battousai filmed the federal warning sign that stated it was a federal violation.

But all was well, the San Antonio PD (SAPD) officer was ignorant, as he tried to tell the Battousai that he had to carry ID with him in Texas, which, as we have pointed out multiple places on this blog, is simply not true.

Then the Battousai starts to leave and the dance begins.

Here, the officers follow him around. They are waiting for him to get in a car so they can stop him, but that isn’t working. So the Battousai walks across the street and the officers make their second mistake, they stop him for not crossing at a crosswalk.

The Battousai knew the state law, that even if a crosswalk wasn’t marked, it still existed at an intersection. The problem is that where he crossed is not an intersection. Where private parking lot or drives meet a public roadway is not an intersection. So he wasn’t at an intersection. All was not lost, because the officers had not gotten any smarter.

The violation is not crossing where there is not an intersection. The violation is “Pedestrian Failing to Yield the Right of Way to Vehicle, While Not in Crosswalk.” See Bolds v. State, 14-07-00952-CR, 2008 WL 5341341, at *2 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] Dec. 23, 2008, no pet.) (“A pedestrian shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle on the highway if crossing a roadway at a place … other than in a marked crosswalk or in an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.” ). Now, from what I saw, no cars were interfered with, none had to brake, swerve, stop, etc., in other words, there was not a violation. There other ways to make it a violation, but they don’t apply here.

I imagine that when the Assistant District Attorney was looking at this, he was trying to figure out a way to make it stick, but couldn’t. So the Battousai got released.

Now the Battousai is looking to crowd fund a civil rights lawsuit. While he is certainly free to do so, I’m not sure that these are the right facts to move on. But if you want to, here is his GoFundMe link.

A Lesson on Failure to ID Law in Texas

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I just found this, he explains it very well for a layman.

One issue, where he talks about video recording police and cites § 21.15, Tex. Pen. Code, that’s not really valid. That section deals with improper photography for sexual gratification, in other words for those pervs who plant cameras in restrooms, etc. Second, that section was struck down as unconstitutional, see Ex parte Thompson, 442 S.W.3d 325 (Tex. Crim. App. 2014); but see Prosecution of the Offense of Invasive Visual Recording, 2015 Tex. Sess. Law Serv. Ch. 955 (S.B. 1317) (Vernon’s) (new version of the law, narrowed, but unlikely to survive strict scrutiny).

Instead, base your filming of the police on the First Amendment and general case law.

In any event, this is a good explanation of the Fail to ID law in Texas.

The LPPA, Professional Police or merely Bullies trying to Silence Elected Officials

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In this video, you see Lubbock Police officers apparently abusing a Hispanic male who is sitting beside a wrecked Lubbock squad car. You see the first office come up and without provocation, kick Jose Carlos Escarcega-Ysaias in the face, and then the beating begins. Other than to say that it is wrong, I’m not going to comment on that, nor on Escarcega’s unprovoked violent assault on Lubbock Police Corporal Ryan Durrett. Nor will we be discussing it in the comments. On that, we are going to wait and see what the Internal Affairs investigation reveals.

No, what we are going to focus on it the attempt of the Lubbock Professional Police Association (LPPA) to silence a sitting city councilman from calling for an investigation into possible criminal violations by city employees.

Council member Victor Hernandez, after viewing the video at the request of the City Manager, James Loomis, publicly called for an investigation of the actions depicted in the video, as he should have. He is an elected representative of the people and that’s what they hired him to do.

LPPA President Jeremy Jones doesn’t agree, and falsely accused Hernandez of committing a felony in releasing a statement on the matter. Jones feels that Hernandez may have violated “Article [sic] 39.06” of the Texas Penal Code, Misuse of Official Information, which is a third degree felony. Jones is full of crap, what Hernandez did comes no where near meeting the elements of the offense for Section 39.06. To be charged with that crime, Hernandez would have to have intended that harm come to any person (presumably an officer who participated in the apparent beating), have disclosed information not available to the public, for a non-governmental purpose, and the information had to be exempt from disclosure under the open records act.

Did you notice that last part? The information had to be exempt from disclosure? It is not enough that the information had not yet been disclosed, it must be information that the government cannot disclose. The video isn’t it, because the local TV station obtained the video the next day, under the open records act.

Oops.

This was a straight attempt to intimidate an elected official who was concerned about police beating a suspect without justification. Period.

Perhaps Jones should have looked at the Obstruction or Retaliation statute, § 36.06, Tex. Pen. Code. It seems like threatening a public servant with a bunch of false charges, on account of their duties to represent the people, is a felony. Jones should be aware of that, police use it all the time.

Maybe someone should talk to Jones about his actions.

Sovereign Citizens Being Owned, for Your Viewing Pleasure (UPDATED)

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You gotta just love how dedicated to completely idiotic ideas these guys are.

I’ll be happy to address any questions on the applicable laws that anyone has, but suffice it to say that all of these nutcases were wrong.

UPDATE:

Oh, Addison, You had Done so Well, and Now This Shows that You Still have Work to do

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“I don’t know that you are doing something to plot something against the police department…” Officer Bagley, #179.

That pretty much says it all. The officer does not know if the photographer is doing something. Uh, officer? That means you do not have reasonable suspicion, much less probable cause.*

Then the officer demands identification and Brett Sanders refuses, fully aware that § 38.02 of the Penal Code only requires that he identify himself if he is under arrest. There is not an offense if he is merely detained. And then the officer takes Sanders to the ground. Without more info, I’m hesitant to say more, but it would appear that the officer was completely out of line. I do know that the officer safety comments about the cell phone are bull.

As a side note, it has been my experience in over 20 years of law enforcement that officers who shave their heads tend to be overly aggressive prima donnas. While I could be wrong, take a look at the video. Just saying.

*However, Sanders is wearing a perfectly legal cap and ball revolver which is a replica of a pre-1899 weapon. The problem is that this can give the officer reasonable suspicion that Sanders is committing the offense of Unlawfully Carrying a Weapon. Sanders is not, but until the officer can verify that the revolver is a pre-1899 replica, it could have very well been a cartridge revolver which would be a crime. The issue is that gives the officer an out, even if he did not articulate it at the time. The law will bend over backwards for idiots, so long as they’re police officers, and will give him credit for actual reasonable suspicion even if the idiot officer didn’t know it at the time.

However, this does not allow the officer to identify Sanders, and does not allow him to search Sanders for identification.

For more information, see the PINAC article.

Catching up with the Battousai

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The Battousai does a very good job in filming police. First, he does not talk too much, and second, he knows the law.

Here are some of his latest clips.

In Cedar Park, a young officer apparently did not like being filmed. Based on his actions, he was about to issue a parking citation, but the lieutenant put an end to it.

In Grand Prairie, one officer contacts him and handles it properly, but talks to him and tries to convince him to identify himself. There is nothing wrong with that, especially since the officer specifically states that he does not have to identify himself.

Round Rock, the first place we saw the Battousai, handles it properly this time.

However, in Dallas, police officers tell him he cannot be on the public right of way adjacent to a dedicated city street. Threatening him with trespass? Really?

And then you have Austin PD. Although they did not “arrest” him, it is fairly clear that they violated his rights and that they did not understand the limitations on identification under 38.02, Tex. Penal Code.

Pearland Texas and Brazoria County Apparently Needs Training on Both Failure to ID and Open Carry

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On April 29, 2015, Brazoria County, Texas Deputy Constable Carlos Bustos* approaches an individual who is apparently open carrying a rifle over his back. The individual asked if he was being detained and was told that he was not, but when he attempted to leave was stopped by the deputy. He attempts to leave again and the deputy wants to know if the rifle is unloaded.

Uh, deputy? There is no law that states that the rifle has to be unloaded. And if challenged on it, you can’t turn it around and require that the citizen prove that there is a law which allows him to carry a loaded rifle. You see, in this country, to create a crime, the legislature must explicitly state what the violation is, to notify the public what the law is.

Pearland Police Officer Brown† took the same approach that the weapon had to be unloaded, and upped the ante by informing the citizen that he had to identify himself or he would be arrested for Failure to Identify (at 3:00). Again, this is not correct. A person is under no obligation under Texas law to identify themselves unless they have been arrested. This is clear, well established law.

Then, at about 14:00 in the video, Deputy Bustos claims that the citizen doesn’t have any respect for the law, because he won’t answer the officers questions or comply with their unlawful demands. He really doesn’t understand that to detain citizens, he has to have reasonable suspicion of a real crime, not something that he made up. And at 18:45, Deputy Bustos suggests that the citizen take it up with his legislators, because they “wrote those laws.” Except that the citizen is correct and there is no such law in Texas. Finally, at the very end of the video, Deputy Bustos apologized for his mistake.

*Deputy Bustos appears to be from Precinct 2. Contact information is available at the link.

†The Pearland Police Department contact information is here.

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